Deutscher Computerspielpreis : Need for documents

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Deutscher Computerspielpreis : Need for documents

Beitragvon ShaneFenton » Mi 4. Apr 2018, 19:35

Hi everyone,

Since the 10th edition of the Deutscher Computerspielpreis will occur next week, I wanted to write an article on it. I gathered a lot of articles and citations, but I welcome any information you can give me.

In particular, I've been looking for 2 things, in vain until now.

First, I've heard that Christian Pfeiffer explicitely opposed the idea of a Computerspielpreis. In fact, he seems to oppose any public or financial endorsement of any video game unless its harmlessness is completely proven. The only exception seems to be a couple of serious games. But I couldn't find a proprer citation, or interview.

A second thing I'm looking for is early critics of the Deutscher Computerspielpreis, either because they think the idea is silly in itself to consider that video games can be awarded on anything, or because it would be a waste of taxpayer money. In particular, I've heard about the head of a music association who decried Computerspielpreis even before the first ceremony started, but I can't find the source.

Anyway, I thank you in advance for all the help you can provide.

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Re: Deutscher Computerspielpreis : Need for documents

Beitragvon Patrik » Do 5. Apr 2018, 09:31

There is also more recent — and probably justified — critique: As half of the money is coming from tax payers, some demand that the protocols of the jury decisions should be publicly available. (This is e.g. formulated by Insert Moin, maybe the most successful German games podcast).

Another critique is that it is possible to nominate not-yet released games. (This is in huge contrast to any other award I know.) Actually, The Surge probably lost an award this way: Last year, they handed in a beta version that was not awarded due to bugs. This year, it was not possible to nominate it — because it was already considered and rejected.

At last, a German game — Witch It — is nominated Best International Multiplayer Game.
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Re: Deutscher Computerspielpreis : Need for documents

Beitragvon Pyri » Do 5. Apr 2018, 16:09

Patrik hat geschrieben:Another critique is that it is possible to nominate not-yet released games. (This is in huge contrast to any other award I know.) Actually, The Surge probably lost an award this way: Last year, they handed in a beta version that was not awarded due to bugs.

Not only that. According to my knowledge it's even more complicated:
Patrik hat geschrieben:This year, it was not possible to nominate it — because it was already considered and rejected.

As far as I read stories about this year's considerations, they actually did consider the add-on "A Walk in the Park". Yet this is no stand-alone add-on.
So they handed-in an edited version of "The Surge", including "A Walk in the Park". But then, again, it was said they could not consider this as a whole package - therefore this year's rejection.
Now it's unclear to me how they even define video games as (consumer) products. Finished, published or something else entirely.

By the way, sci-fi's "The Surge" was internationally much more appreciated than its winning fantasy predecessor "Lords of the Fallen" (USK-16), but it's USK-18. A sequel being already underway: it still may not be based on an original idea, therefore no highly regarded game - being a "Souls" clone and all, but its aesthetics and technique are still quite unique. So they had to nominate, for the first time in five years or so, an USK-18 rated title in a major (German) category, in one way or the other - which, of course, they decided not to...
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Re: Deutscher Computerspielpreis : Need for documents

Beitragvon Rey Alp » Do 5. Apr 2018, 22:28

„Ich denke erst einmal müsste die Wissenschaft Belege dafür haben, dass es Anlass gibt ein Computerspiel zu preisen. Bisher ist es aus meiner Sicht alles die Anregung zum Zeitverdaddeln. Dazu, dass man sich verliert im stundenlangen Computerspielen, und das nutzt niemanden was. […] Weltweit gibt es den empirischen Nachweis, dass Spiele sinnvoll sind, nicht. Sehr wohl gab es den aber für preisgekrönte normale Brettspiele. Da hat man tatsächlich festgestellt, dass die positive Wirkungen haben. Dass Kinder in ihrer Persönlichkeitsreifung dadurch gut beeinflusst werden.“

https://vdvc.de/blog/2009/05/31/normalitat/

And maybe close:

Die Gamesindustrie wird von Politikern geradezu hofiert. Man wirbt um die Ansiedlung von Herstellern und richtet Gamesdesign-Studiengänge ein. Auch wird jedes Jahr ein Computerspielpreis für das beste deutsche Spiel ausgelobt mit einem Preisgeld von 100.000 Euro. Was ist von Politkern zu erwarten, die in der Öffentlichkeit lautstark ein Herstellungs- und Vertriebsverbot von Killerspielen fordern, aber gleichzeitig vor den Wirtschaftsinteressen der Spieleindustrie, die auf Kosten unserer Jugend Milliardengewinne scheffelt, kapitulieren?

http://www.nrhz.de/flyer/beitrag.php?id=23072

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Re: Deutscher Computerspielpreis : Need for documents

Beitragvon ShaneFenton » Fr 6. Apr 2018, 13:20

Thanks everyone ! I'm glad I could find a trace of Christian Pfeiffer's objection to DCP. There was a time I used to have some respect for him... until I started to translate full interviews of him.


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